The Open Philanthropy Project spoke with Mr. Udell as part of a high level inquiry into occupational licensing reform in law and potential roles for nonlawyers. NCAJ works to increase access to justice. Its flagship project is the Justice Index, a new resource that relies on data and indexing to promote best practices for access to justice in the states. Mr. Udell and NCAJ have also supported projects that have helped to open academic and public dialogue on possible roles for nonlawyers in responding to people’s otherwise unmet civil legal needs.